This is more like it 

A revised OPML Editor community discussion site is at amyloo.opml.org. Dave was right. I was trying to do two different things that were too different, in making the site do double duty as the draft 1.0 site and a place for community volunteers to work and talk.

Let me take a shot at defining what gets talked about where -- now and when 1.0 is released. Somebody tell me if I'm full of shit.

NOW

Questions about using the beta software get asked in a number of places

- The Yahoo! Groups mailling lists: opml-newbies and opmlsupport. Opmlsupport is for more advanced users, and it's linked to the current support.opml.org comments (when you post a comment on support.opml.org, it's added to the message listing on the mailing list).

- Informally, there's some help via crosstalk on the blogs and in individual OPML blog comments.

- Dave makes announcements mostly as posts at support.opml.org, but sometimes announces minor community things on the mailing lists. Hardcore geek posts go on geeks.opml.org (now get otta here).

- Dan's OPMLcommunity.org blog was set up for easier discussion about community server issues. We tried to use it for more general community work, but Dave couldn't get registered...

- and we finally settled on the Manila site for general community discussion. Now here's where somebody needs to set me straight if I'm not seeing this clearly, but I'm thinking the new Manila site is for volunteers working on the docs and site and any other tasks running up to the 1.0 release. I'm thinking it's not a support site for users who aren't working on something for the application.

POST 1.0

There's some time to kick this around. I think it will be a good thing to use the discussion group on the Manila site to wade in it and gague its suitability for support forums. Most open source software supported by a volunteer community have web-based discussion. They're usually searchable and archived, they work pretty well for the purpose, and it's kind of the convention anymore.

I've been picturing the 1.0 site as having four sections mapping to the grok, grab, mash and help buttons on the draft site. I can see the developer's headquarters (mash) having a separate discussion group from the user support forum.

I'm trying to think if I should post this over on the new site. I kind of jumped the gun this morning and don't want to do it again. (Later: Dave says I'm sorting it out, so I think I will crosspost this over there. Tell me what you think about the suppositions by posting a message at the discussion group, everybody, would you?)

Coming along 

I'm gradually moving my draft content for the OPML Editor 1.0 support site to a development site at amyloo.opml.org.

It's a Manila site, so it has a discussion board where we can talk about the docs and site. If you'd like to help with either or both, or if you have ideas, make a post over there. I think it's set up so you can create a new topic. If not let me know.

There are a few more cosmetic and organizational things I need to figure out about Manila. For example the Javascript for my rollover buttons isn't working. I'm going to try it as an external file, and try to see if there's anything in the {javascript} macro that might be interfering with the button code. And I have to figure out how departments work, and see how to link up the editor to post over there.

After that, I'll dig into the outline rendering capabilities for possible use as an FAQ and maybe a web version of the manual, plus some demonstration outlines such as the directory of tools that play with OPML that Dave wants to do. Anybody want to take on the coordination of that directory?

I'll crossposted this on the dev site's message board so you can comment if you want.