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Notes from BloggerCon getting ready to do some liveblogging from BloggerCon
Random Observations:
Welcome: Dave Winer Says there's no audience; it's participants. (of course, many of us are participating by writing notes as we listen. Asynchronous participation). non-commercial conference: don't pitch products (laying down the law). Doc Searls is doing technography ( I think that means he's taking notes; on the screen in front of us, using an OPML editor; he's also editorializing as he writes). Hope to capture the action item list Niall Kennedy: "...get permission from our wives" -- well, that holds an assumption about bloggers, 'eh? All about the logistics (come for dinner even if you didn't come for the conference) Everything is on the record and ready for distrubtion unless someone specifically says no, keep it quiet. People continue to wonder in. Trying to decide on the song:
Phil Torrone: Tools most known for writing how-tos which tools would you use to put a recipe online?
Hope the tools they get better (finding projects online, looking games)
(it's not easy to make screencasts) (tools put use/documentation into the hands of users but this has to be advocated and could be a way that companies get to better how-tos) general opinion that apps are still too hard to use
We are dependent on services (like YouTube) what happens if they go away? Or if they get monetized in a way that makes it increasingly less useful?
Sharing is a constant concern in figuring out the how-tos
Proprietary sharing is built into the DIY devices (things like cameras linking to the makers sharing tool)
Documenting use can be as hard as making something from scratch; that reduces the compulsion to share
Interesting -- a lot of folks here use del.icio.us for personal use only crafters are using forums to share how-to and then creating marketplaces but still the tools are basically broken People don't get wikis yet
Hard to use blogging tool as personal knowledge management tool because the whole post is public or not -- rather than a place to have hidden notes. The thoughts that you aren't ready to share yet or the place where you are making linkages or just general notes to yourself. People don't use the sharing tools because of IP concerns
(you can't expect a whole organization to get something; you have to find advocates in the organization) Don't frame the ways that these tools will provide benefit
Enhanced podcast (people aren't doing it) (Tools still need to be cobbled together way too much; part of why flock is interesting) (Concentration on making; what about using?) (getting lost in the podcast tool talk) mp3 is a final release format; mess w/ it in other tools and then save as an mp3 for sharing
Tools mentioned (not remotely comprehensive)
Jay Rosen: Citizen Journalism bio; PressThink; session description; doc's notes Here's the agenda. The job of the session is to answer these questions.
Primary question: How do we actually do users-more-than-we-do journalism and break news with it, proving that social networks can produce kick-ass reporting?
URLs/Tools mentioned in this session:
Chris Pirillo: Users in Charge bio; blog; session description; doc's notes we are users of many things; technology is just one of 'em; many things impact our lives if something that you are using isn't working the way you think it could or should work are you saying something about that? (links to the other session, eh?) blogs allow product/service users to take control of bits of the conversation (you get to voice your opinion) (the ability to listen is predicated on the ability to parse the various streams in a way that allows for reliable listening) as a user, one of the tools you have to make a prodcut/service better is giving your opinions. It opens up a dialog. (from the room) As a user want to be sure that tools allow for export of data. How, as a user, do you let people know that it's important to you to be able to pull the data out? (the issue is that there is so much that we use that we don't actually understand. Like electricity. I have no choice but to be locked in and trust the data -- the form of a monthly bill -- is correct. How do you deal w/ the fact that you don't understand everything? How much time do we have to really drill down into this or should we just deal w/ it in places where it really matters?) (from the room) parsing data is hard. (interruption from Dave) the users have to run the conversation; not the developers; a chance for the developers to learn to listen to what the users want (from the room) I don't just want to be able to access my data; I want to use an interface that makes my interaction w/ that data easy. (from the room) We really need to shift to a user/developer connection; co-creator. Not just focus groups in a traditional sense but conversations. (must connect the user to the product in a way that makes sense for both; enough information for the users to take off in the ways that wish to) (I keep making the same side-notes again and again) (my hammer) (from the room) people need a place to start, assuming people are all power users is not appropriate (from the room) would like easy EASY ways to be able to contact the maker frustration -- users have to find the solution on their own (I'm lost on waht this has to do w/ blogging; is this session a user bitch session? is it a chance to talk about how users can use blogs to get their voice out?) (from the room) a place where users can aggregate their complaints? (from the room) I want a tool to do one or two things very well (I want my tools to plug into each other the ways I want) (from the room) A slider where people can position themselves on a user scale (nice!) (from the room) The way a product makes you feel is a feature. (from the room) An odeo like way of, when using a product, to record a message that gets sent to the developers URLs/Tools mentioned in this session:
Niall Kennedy: Standards for Users blog; session description; doc's notes Goes through some standards: baseball diamond, stephenson gauge, rj11, standard shipping container (session hijack: Dave Winer wants Kennedy to describe RSS; unclear about reasons that this is okay if other kinds of explanations are not okay) For reasons I'm not clear on -- given the topic -- we have a feed open on the window and they are describing it. User conference. Question for the room: what standards do people want from their tools? (from the room) people want calendar standards. Are you storing data in a calendar or trying to coordinate a group of people? (microformats gets at this) (from the room) Not just about standards, also about being able to pull your reviews and move them into other places (tagging helps this, eh?) (from the room) Why do I have to know whether or not something works? I don't know how my car works. But I still get in my car and drive. (but car users are the one's who've advocated for increased safety features so there may be a place where the real deal is describing the benefit and advocating for features that can be proven to increase those benefits. So maybe the question is, what is a point of pain for users -- backups -- and how is that fixed? A default backup solution?) (I've been lost in the room and so am spending time in the IRC channel) (this is the time of day when I start running out of notetaking steam) (from the room) want to be able to pull the metadata out of a system w/ the original data (users want backups which means faith in services; how do you vet services?) (backup and export. People want their stuff saved and they want to be able to change their mind. Portability data.) (from the room) Need a good tool to compare various tools. (from IRC) a need for a blog export that perserves or somehow fixes your links to yourself (so you link to one post in another post -- that gets broken) I think you don't move your old content but sort of restart and keep the old stuff as archives (from the room) inbound links will break. Here's the deal: when you have an ecosystem, it really is hard to move from place to another. Tools/URLs mentioned in this session:
Lisa Williams: Emotional Life blog; session description; doc's notes (Not for nothing, I expect my notes here are going to be terrible; not the session. It's me.) went to blogging to be alone; now bloggercon is home (question to the room) why do you blog
My own to-dos:
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