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Andymoe is suggesting we write the stand-alone Community Server for LAMPy (Linux-Apache-MySQL-Python). Good idea. Permanent link to this item in the archive.

Garrick Van Buren: "Comments (blog responses hosted on the original blog) don't allow the comment-author to take ownership and responsibility for their statements. They can start a fire and leave, sticking the blog author with the mess to clean up. Trackbacks on the other hand have all the benefits of comments without the drive-by issue. The pre-requisite being - the commenter needs a blog themselves. Not a terribly high obstacle these days." Permanent link to this item in the archive.

This is amazingly cool - two guys made a raft from Gatorade bottles and then rowed across the Charles River in Boston. The Charles, at the Kendall / North Side end is pretty wide. In the spirit of iterative development and Moore's Law, I expect by next year that they will have a coffee machine, wifi connection and GPS. The year after, it'll have lasers on the top to shoot at passers-by. Come on, this is Raft 0.5. We're in Raft 2.0 era, guys, we need laser cannons. And gradient fills. And rounded corners. Permanent link to this item in the archive.

Wowza. I've just set up OSXvnc on my old iBook (which has a broken screen and trackpad) and am controlling it from my new laptop. Permanent link to this item in the archive.

Dave has a new Mac build which should make the Community Server quite a bit easier to set up. I'll test it later, once I've got my old Mac out of deep freeze. Permanent link to this item in the archive.

Perry de Havilland: "Whilst I would be delighted if the anti-terrorist squad had broken up an Al-Qaeda cell in the UK, the bitter experience of the Jean de Menezes killing and subsequent criminal conspiracy to cover up the facts, not to mention the scandalous Harry Stanley killing, means that the police and entire structure within which they operate cannot be trusted to tell the truth, it is only clear physical evidence that can show us what to believe." Permanent link to this item in the archive.

Oh my, all this 666 stuff is so ridiculous. I mean, George W. Bush as the Antichrist? How original. Why not someone a little bit less obvious? I mean, what about Peter the Great? He was born on the 6th of June. Or maybe Max August Zorn - he was born on June the 6th, 1906 (the last centennial "666"). And his crime was, well, that he was a mathematician who came up with a theorem called "Zorn's lemma". Not a '666' but close - David Blunkett was born on June the 6th. If the Antichrist exists, Blunkett is probably pretty close to him. Perhaps when Jesus does come back, he'll team up with his "December 25" buddies to defeat the Antichrist. That's a pay-per-view special for anybody: David "The Satan" Blunkett vs. The Jesus Tag-Team - comprising Jesus, Dido, Shane MacGowan, Karl Rove and Dean Cameron. Until that happens, I'm going to be celebrating my June 6th with a nice big glass of pineapple juice and free abortions for everybody!  Permanent link to this item in the archive.

I'm getting referrer spam from "Mere Comments", the blog by the editors of the Christian magazine Touchstone. The referrer spam comes from an entry called "Those Perfidious Baptists" (June 3, 2006). It contains no links to my site, but it is appearing in my referrer logs (which aren't public, but I do have a screenshot of the spam). There may be another explanation, but it would seem that these good Christian bloggers may be engaging in referral spam. Permanent link to this item in the archive.

AskMeFi is hunting for an offline wiki. Permanent link to this item in the archive.

Gender in Blogging Permanent link to this item in the archive.

Just so you know, all bloggers are middle-aged, male arseholes, and women are their victims. So sayeth Catherine Bennett in the Groaniad. If Bennett and co. are serious about getting women in to blogging, why don't they do something useful - like getting the Guardian to sponsor and/or organise a BlogHer conference in London?

It's so amusing to watch the Guardian comments board, since (a) it's so thoroughly shit and (b) there are always people on there saying things like "these commenters are all male! Male, I say!", despite the fact that half the commenters have gender inspecific names (like 'Sideways' or 'neuron' or 'Tomahawk'). It's so male, because that's what fits with what I want to believe!

But, this idea does seem to fit certain people's preconceptions. Perhaps we should seek a nice government solution - make blogs artificially scarce and then demand that for every male blog set up, a female equivalent is set up to accompany it. Of course, then we'll have a nice debate in the House of Commons to decide whether or not pre-op trannies count or not. And we'll have the secret underground blogging police to enforce the diversity rules. Or we could just lighten up, and drop some tabs of acid in to the watercooler at Guardian HQ.

There is another question - how much time does Ophelia spend in the Guardian comments section?

Do read Eve Garrard's response over on Norm's blog.

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Hop on the Bigotry Express! Permanent link to this item in the archive.

Let's have a little train ride and see how damn annoying certain superstitious people are being on the basis of their beliefs.

First stop, London. Looks like another art exhibition has been shut down by zealots. Funny how someone from a "human rights" campaign is saying that it is "willing to do everything short of violence to stop the public seeing two of Husain's works" - obviously the human right of free expression as defined in Article 10 of the European Convention means little to this human rights campaigner nor, by inference, does the freedom of thought and conscience clause of Article 9.

Then there's Turkey, where a judge was murdered alledgedly by an Islamic extremist.

Joseph "Pope Benedict XVI" Ratzinger is talking utter shit and offending people - exactly what his sort wants to outlaw when he is the target of the offence. Austin has a nice quote from a book about Razinger:

Ratzinger¹s reading of the war omits what many people would consider its main lesson, namely, the dangers of blind obedience.

The Religious Policeman has stoped blogging, meaning that we won't get any more detailed coverage of these issues. For shame!

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Comments, Again Permanent link to this item in the archive.

Seth Godin switched the comments off. What's the reaction been? Well, I hate to say it, but very, very negative. Kent Newsome, for instance, has described it as "faux agoraphobia". Mathew Ingram has pointed out Godin's apparent hypocrisy because of his involvement in both the Cluetrain and because Seth's "how to promote your blog" post included advice to people to use comments.

I have to respectfully disagree. Though I have comments on most of my titled entries, I do so somewhat reluctantly.

I don't like blog comments. They're an unfortunate anachronism. RSS is a superb piece of technology which allows me to see what people are writing on their blogs automatically. There is no easy way of keeping track of comments like there is with links. Links get crawled by Technorati, comments do not. I use co.mments.com, but it's a bit of an pain in the arse, to be honest. For instance, I bookmarked (co.mment.ed? ce.ment.ed?) a post that Suw made on Strange Attractor the other day. co.mments.com tells me when there's a response, but it doesn't actually list the comment in the response, so I have to click back through to the site to see what it is. The co.mments.com RSS feed also doesn't seem to render in my aggregator, so their page is yet another page I have to keep on my "things to keep track of" list (email, calendar, to-do list, aggregator, comments, a couple of forums and so on).

I am sure there are hundreds of thousands of good conversations going on in commentspace, but it's nearly impossible to find them, and even harder to keep track of them.

If I get a comment on my blog, it's difficult to work out what to do with it. For instance, Dave Winer posted a comment on my blog today (here). What do I do with it? I've posted a comment back saying "I'm not sure, Dave", but how do I know whether Dave has read that? It's hardly like sending an email or putting a link to someone's blog. It's really a rather difficult form to actually have a conversation in, which rather puts pay to the whole idea that comments are the most perfectest form of conversation known to man.

Comments also suffer from bad software. The linear form doesn't scale well. This means that conversations get very muddy, very quickly. There is no easy way to mark out quotations in most blog comments, while the ability to put a blockquote in is in most message board software and in blog software itself. Comment areas also have varying approaches to HTML - some allow lots of it, some allow a bit of it, some allow none of it. Some comments areas don't even allow you to use paragraphs. If what you have to say is important, I want to be able to respond properly. That means all of the tools available to me in HTML: links, quotes and paragraphs.

We need something far more robust. The conversation is complex - a point I made in my post back in march about the Conversation Garden - flat, linear threads with no ability to branch off do not mirror that conversation. Compared to that, distributed blog conversation in the "market" of conversion is far more productive.

Having to put up with trolls is not part of the "conversation" we signed up for. Having to go through thousands and thousands of comment spams isn't part of the agreement.

Starting conversations is pointless if the conversation is a pile of crap. The value I've found in blogs far outweighs the value I find in the comments. Compared to the blogs on which they are hosted, many comments are dull, uninformative, badly written and of precious little value. Look at MySpace if you want an example of this.

Like MySpace, I think that blog comments are an essentially temporary phenomenon. They have value and potential for value, but that value is undeveloped in the current form. That's why there is value in, say, a blogger pulling interesting comments out and posting them as entries in themselves. The way that some people I meet talk though, comments are an unquestionable holy cow. I've been told that when I don't have comments on, I'm "not really blogging" - it's a foregone conclusion that they are undoubtedly a good thing.

The people who are defending comments now don't seem to be rushing to hype up message boards, even though the same advantages exist with message baords, and the same failures too. What I say on my blog sits in my control, on my computer. What I say on your blog sits there only at your whim. Blog comments aren't all that people make them out to be. They're okay. That's all. Okay. Not bad. Okay in the same way that MySpace is okay. Yeah, it serves the purpose, but it causes lots of problems on the way, and should really be redesigned to function a lot better.

Take a big political blog of any denomination - Kevin Drum or LGF or $ideology_of_your_choice - and ask yourself the question: if you could get an RSS feed of the comments to all the entries of that blog, and an RSS feed of just the entries of that blog, which would have more value? I'd say the posts themselves, not the comments. And I'd say that for the 300-odd blogs I read, that would be true for most, if not all, of them. Why? Well, one of the points is selection. Look at LGF. It has, at the time of writing, six posts on the front page. There is, on average, around 2,500 comments on LGF every day. There is a lot of value in "less is more". Time and attention is a finite resource. Perhaps on a topic or story you are very passionate about you can sit there and read a couple of hundred comments, but one of the values of the blogosphere is that you can find a source which just filters out the interesting stories for you.

There are lots of good things to say about comments, but some perspective is needed. There is a balance in the argument here. There are disadvantages to comments, and there are things which need doing a lot better.

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